1st...

lots of changes ...

Love the new changes, good work!

Summary: Let's take out the good parts of the map and completely ass rape it. Might be good for WC3 Mod in a pub. Go back to the _rc

window room was fine

It looks amazing.

A+

So far.

are their still no good spots to hold a without getting raped by flashes and spams?

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 5:40 am

sick sick sick

A is completely changed. bombsite is moved, Short comes out to a balcony.

I agree with a site is too open

L 12/29/2009 - 23:41:01: -------- Mapchange to de_lite --------
Host_Error: PF_precache_model_I: Model 'sprites/flare1.spr' failed to precache because the item count is over the 512 limit.
Reduce the number of brush models and/or regular models in the map to correct this

Keep getting that error when trying to change the map, this is on a listen server

B is good.. A. Uh..

lite is only 2 weeks away

sick, release a heavily modified map 2 weeks before we have to play it

_rc ftw

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 5:52 am

map still blows, great effort though!!

retake'n b is the only way to play this map end of story

Site A seems undefendable.

"As you can see in the screenshots below, terrorists can now gain entrance into CT Spawn via window room which will hopefully help balance the map and allow for more dynamic game play."

Balance out the map for who?


If you knew how to hold A, and had a team with capable players, holding A on rc2 was fairly easy.


Haven't played the new version yet, but would you say holding B is easier or more difficult than rc2.

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 6:13 am

The map was pretty balanced already... this just seems ridiculous

Looks bad because it's nearly impossible to retake A. There's only 1 place to retake from, which is CT spawn unlike rc2 where you could go through window room, break vent and retake cat as well.

Wow this map is fucking crazy now lol! That door bellow window is nuts. and if you get into window you can get into ct spawn? lol

too Tsided

map is unbelievably bad now...

map was pretty good before.... now its ruined gj

retake A looks near impossible

a piece of me died with these changed

loooks weird ill get used to it

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 7:05 am

agreed

niceee

map is ruined

the old lite was good enough to be the final, changing parts of the map sends it back to square one. If you make changes like this when its already in league play, can we expect in a month or two more changes completely altering the way the map is played? The majority of the people who didn't like this map before were people who didn't want to put time into learning a new map. I may be ranting, but I think it would of been better to work on a new map instead of changing an existing one enough that it's basically a new map.

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 7:35 am

rc2 was good, this map blows ass

HOMO

A isn't hard too hold you guys are just bad...

-You can only retake A from one spot entrance

-The rotations are so far to each bombsite.

I personally liked rc2 how it was, despite the minor glitchs there was. this isnt as good I don't think, good attempt so far though, i still think there can be updates to this to make it better.

agree with many others here. rc2 was better

has it


might even be worth it to do 1 or none in b (2 play the window room area off good spawns to cut off banana and blue door) and the other 3 in a site/hall or short.

need to scrim it before i have a complete opinion. changes are definitely radical over the other to release candidates.

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 7:45 am

Glad i'm not the only 1 that realized A site is difficult to retake. However, I didn't enjoy the double doors for rc2, should have just replaced them with a corridor or something... W/e tho may the best team's win

just pugged on it..t side is hella fun even though the t's get to the sites faster

you're going to have to play like 3 A,1 mid leaning toward A and 1 B. Having only 1 entrance into A from CT spawn is ridiculous. Retaking A seems almost impossible.

the rotation from b to cat really isn't that bad guys

really bad. dont like at all.

- boxes in banana seem messy
- 1 way retake into A, conveniently through a long tunnel
- window to ct spawn seems drastic
- angles at short for ts are really awkward and difficult

Just like the last version, if you are good at taking B, it is incredibly easy to win because you can only have 1/2 there. This map makes you play strong A because the rotation is limited.

The only way to retake other than the main backhalls is push out of window and go long or cat. Doing this is incredibly noisy, and will be watched if a team takes that site.

The idea of a quick passageway to the window is a good idea, but almost useless for CT's. You can spot it with an AWP and watch the window/door but T's can cross to either side without you seeing them. You still have no awareness of where they might be going(such as window on inferno)

Holding the retake in A will be incredibly easily for any team with at least 3 members still alive. The plants are pretty limited and if you plant for halls it's really hard to defuse, being it's a T-sided angle in halls.

Just my thoughts on it, haven't scrimmed it yet, so it will be a little different.

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 8:39 am

I am currently making my overview, one which you guys should take a look into lol, this map has potential to be awesome. I loved rc2 ( while I know it wasn't finished )

You killed the map... jesus christ.

yfrog.com/bhdelitegohpersizedp

Basically I took what I saw what you guys did and tried to make it a bit more to my liking. I dont know if anyone would like to see this map created but I bet it would be an upgrade xD <3

btw where the squeaky door is its a 2 floor deal, that hallway from ct spawn is ABOVE it, and the floor seperating the floors in a vent floor kinda like the flooring they have toward the A site in the new version.

the door under the windows would be removed to make room for that hall that leads from short a mid to window room.

Last modified on 12/30/2009 at 11:29 am